Italy is full of talent, daring, and heroism. It is colorful, elegant, and chauvinistic, malicious and deceitful. A place of longing for the Germans, a troubled child of Europe: How can a country be so beautiful yet so corrupt and confused – a question that has become even more pressing after the elections in March 2018. Two men closely connected to Italy attempt to unravel this riddle in conversation: Roberto Saviano, who not only sheds light on the machinations of the mafia but also proves to be an outstanding interpreter of Italian politics and contemporary history, and Giovanni di Lorenzo, who looks at his former and still occasionally visited homeland with the painful passion of someone who has moved away. From the warmth of the Italians, behind which often lies nothing more than cunning, to the piety of the mafiosi and the heroes.